HX3 driven by Hammond XK3 pedal drawbars

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HX3 driven by Hammond XK3 pedal drawbars

Beitrag von lucasasdelli » 4. Jul 2019, 17:20

Hi all,

my Hammond XK3 drives perfectly the HX3 MIDI Expander, but there is no effect by acting on the two Bass drawbars. All other drawbars does work perfectly.

By enabling "Manual Bass" mode on XK3, the basses are played by the HX3 expander, but only at maximum volume: the XK3's bass drawbars doesn't have any effect on them. As well, on HX3 display all other drawbars does change the voice values, but the bass ones doesn't.
MIDI output shows that they transmit value changes as they should do, therefore it seems an expander issue to me.
Of course, bass drawbars does work properly with embedded XK3 tone generators.

MIDI setup is as per default, so CH1 = upper, CH2 = lower, CH3 = bass pedals.

Did anybody have this issue?

Thanks!
Luca

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Re: HX3 driven by Hammond XK3 pedal drawbars

Beitrag von clp560 » 8. Jul 2019, 21:02

Hi,

I was only able to test this today and I found the same problem. I just upgraded my expander recently to HX 3.5 (previous board had no problems with the pedal drawbars) but had not tried the pedals yet. I'm using an XK3 and all the other controls work ok. All midi inputs are correct and MidiOx shows that the bass drawbars are sending their midi outputs ok.

Would be good to have a fix for this. Hopefully Carsten will get time to check this out.

Paul

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Re: HX3 driven by Hammond XK3 pedal drawbars

Beitrag von happyfreddy » 8. Jul 2019, 21:06

I´ll inform Carsten tomorrow about the problem
Which update release is used ?
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Re: HX3 driven by Hammond XK3 pedal drawbars

Beitrag von clp560 » 9. Jul 2019, 10:13

Hi,

FW is 5.411
HX3 Mk5 True Organ
FPGA 09072018
Midi input from XK3

Thanks for looking into this.

Paul

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Re: HX3 driven by Hammond XK3 pedal drawbars

Beitrag von lucasasdelli » 9. Jul 2019, 14:11

A more detail:

XK3' pedal drawbars doesn't update the visual slider indicator on display; moreover, by varying the bass drawbar value on HX3 Expander, the volume stays at maximum level anyway.

My FW is 5.412
HX3 MIDI Expander

Thanks for looking in this issue!
Luca

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Re: HX3 driven by Hammond XK3 pedal drawbars

Beitrag von happyfreddy » 9. Jul 2019, 21:45

Carsten is informed and will answer soon here
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Re: HX3 driven by Hammond XK3 pedal drawbars

Beitrag von clp560 » 31. Aug 2019, 15:40

Just wondering if there's been any progress on this issue?

Thanks

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Re: HX3 driven by Hammond XK3 pedal drawbars

Beitrag von bovist » 14. Sep 2019, 13:25

From change from 5.411 to 5.412 there was a small bug that prevented update of pedal drawbars in all MIDI CC sets; this faulty FW was online a few days unintentionally. It should be eliminated by later 5.412 firmware. Please try the FW here:

http://keyboardpartner.remotewebaccess. ... 20Firmware

Just update firmware, not the EEPROM.

If this does not help, please contect me at info [at] keyboardpartner.de; Hammond changed MIDI CCs several times within production runs, so I would need a MIDI dump of pedal drawbar moves to fix this issue.
Gruß, Carsten aka bovist
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Re: HX3 driven by Hammond XK3 pedal drawbars

Beitrag von lucasasdelli » 14. Sep 2019, 14:46

Hi Carsten,
my HX3 MIDI Expander came already with the 5.412 fw and presents this issue.

Apart from the MIDI CC from the Hammond, there is another issue on the Expander itself: by navigating to the Bass bars, the Data Entry knob does vary the bar properly, but not the volume, that remains at maximum irrespective to the bar position.

Best
Luca

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Re: HX3 driven by Hammond XK3 pedal drawbars

Beitrag von clp560 » 18. Sep 2019, 09:59

Hi Carsten,

I updated to 5.412 but the problem remains the same. The editor can change the drawbars volume ok but the physical pedal drawbars don't work. One clue might be in the following:

On doing a first attempt at updating to the new 5.5 version (some problems there to address in a separate post) in the new version of the editor I can see the upper/lower screen drawbars moving with the physical drawbars except for the two pedal drawbars. These 'twitch' slightly but are obviously not registering the midi range correctly. I'm certain this will be to do with the XK3's NRPN output not being correctly converted on those two drawbars. Previous firmware/earlier board worked fine.

Thanks for your help

Paul

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