4.25 Key Click sounds wrong through HX3 Leslie Sim

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4.25 Key Click sounds wrong through HX3 Leslie Sim

Beitragvon Organuts » 2. Mai 2017, 08:15

Ich mache dafür hier mal einen eigenen Thread auf, damit Carsten das auch findet.

marcoballa hat geschrieben:ciao!
(sorry for English language)

my example in order to help Carsten improving the leslie simulation ;)
the leslie sim is great, also with the best drive/amp simulation on a clonewheel.

BUT, it makes the keyclick sound "FALSE", adding a strange "doubler" effect.
with other leslie simulations or with a real leslie the HX3 keyclick is simply perfet, so the problem is somewhere in the internal leslie sim (the horn and rotor spin is great, it just need to sound less "metallic", don't know how to explain).

so, it's easier to listen (I'm not a technician so I'm not able to explain it with the right words) :lol:
as you can easily notice, the keyclick with other simulator (or real rotary) sounds definitely DIFFERENT (and it sounds RIGHT).
with the internal sim it sounds "double" (not correct):
https://youtu.be/x7Frw30Ccjo

but, in a rock mix, everything works well :D :
https://youtu.be/TLib8ZlBRFo

take care!
Marco

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Re: 4.25 Key Click sounds wrong through HX3 Leslie Sim

Beitragvon happyfreddy » 2. Mai 2017, 08:20

Carsten hat´s schon in Arbeit..........
Hammond H 112 auf Säulen
Wersi Spectra auf Chromsäulen (+ HX 3 im Bau)
Wersi Spectra im Prisma Gehäuse
Leslie 770
HX 3 B 3 look (mk 4 )
HX 2 auf Chromsäulen (mk 1)
HX 1 Labormuster von 2010 mit Röhrenvorstufe
WERSI HELIOS W2TV spezial + HX 3 (im Bau)

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Re: 4.25 Key Click sounds wrong through HX3 Leslie Sim

Beitragvon bovist » 4. Mai 2017, 16:53

Try lower values for these Rotary Defaults with HX3 Remote:

    606 - Level Tap Far (amount of reflected signal from distant wall - I think 230 is a little high)
    614 - Initial Room delay far (distance of "far" wall)
    613 - Initial Room delay near (distance of "near" wall)
Be careful with the delay params as they can cause distortion or jumps if set to inappropriate values.

Check "Non-volatile Write" to make changes permanent.

Please let me know if you find your favorite setup.
Gruß, Carsten aka bovist
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Re: 4.25 Key Click sounds wrong through HX3 Leslie Sim

Beitragvon marcoballa » 11. Mai 2017, 21:48

THANKS A LOT!!!!!

(maybe you can make these settings as "default" in next upgrade ;) )

Ciao!

Marco


PS: new demo, with real tube amp rotary (It sounds like a 145/147 leslie).
the HX3 sound "REAL"!
https://youtu.be/bHw3ivrHDvw

new demo with adjusted internal rotary sim coming soon

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Re: 4.25 Key Click sounds wrong through HX3 Leslie Sim

Beitragvon arnsman » 12. Mai 2017, 11:14

Hi Marco,

wich values on these parameters you have now, for playing with internal Rotary?

thanks
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Re: 4.25 Key Click sounds wrong through HX3 Leslie Sim

Beitragvon marcoballa » 12. Mai 2017, 12:27

arnsman hat geschrieben:Hi Marco,

wich values on these parameters you have now, for playing with internal Rotary?

thanks

ciao, are you talking about these?
606 - Level Tap Far (amount of reflected signal from distant wall - I think 230 is a little high)
614 - Initial Room delay far (distance of "far" wall)
613 - Initial Room delay near (distance of "near" wall)

I did not use the editor on pc, so everything is "default" (as it comes from fw upgrade).

I'll connect the editor as soon as possible and I'll check :lol:

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Re: 4.25 Key Click sounds wrong through HX3 Leslie Sim

Beitragvon happyfreddy » 12. Mai 2017, 12:36

hi
Yes these parameters are those carsten talked about.
Please post them here so we have some " mostly liked references from clients "
so we can use them in further updates as " default "
Hammond H 112 auf Säulen
Wersi Spectra auf Chromsäulen (+ HX 3 im Bau)
Wersi Spectra im Prisma Gehäuse
Leslie 770
HX 3 B 3 look (mk 4 )
HX 2 auf Chromsäulen (mk 1)
HX 1 Labormuster von 2010 mit Röhrenvorstufe
WERSI HELIOS W2TV spezial + HX 3 (im Bau)

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Re: 4.25 Key Click sounds wrong through HX3 Leslie Sim

Beitragvon marcoballa » 12. Mai 2017, 17:50

happyfreddy hat geschrieben:hi
Yes these parameters are those carsten talked about.
Please post them here so we have some " mostly liked references from clients "
so we can use them in further updates as " default "

OK, no problem!
but first I have to understand how to use the editor :lol: :P :lol:
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