Leslie Speed control slow-stop-fast of internal Leslie

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nordym
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Leslie Speed control slow-stop-fast of internal Leslie

Beitrag von nordym »

Hey All,

I'm using a Custom Midi CC setup with my Nord C1 and can get an external leslie to work in three way mode slow 0 - Stop 64 - Fast 127 on cc82 using a handswitch via the Nord.

But I cannot control the HX-3 Module's internal leslie using this. I can get Slow 0 and Fast 64 AND 127 only.

It would be great for cc82 via my half moon to control both the external and the Internal Leslie with the same cc82 data.

Thoughts?

Thx,

Nordym
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Re: Leslie Speed control slow-stop-fast of internal Leslie

Beitrag von nordym »

I'm going reclarify my original post.

I would like to be able to STOP the internal Leslie using cc 82 or any cc for that matter:

Slow = 0
Stop = 64
Fast + 127

At the moment, I get Slow @ 0 and Fast @ 64 and 127, no Stop.

Thanks,

Nordym
Gast
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Re: Leslie Speed control slow-stop-fast of internal Leslie

Beitrag von Gast »

Can anyone suggest how I can use my half moon three way switch to control the internal rotary effect in the HX-3.

I want to program slow - stop - fast with it. Slow = 0 Stop = 64 Fast = 127.

So far, Slow = 0 but there is no stop and Fast is 64 and 127.

I'm using a standard half moon that works with my Nord C1.

Thanks, nordym
Gast
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Re: MIDI Leslie Speed control slow-stop-fast of internal Leslie

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Come on Gang!

So no one is switching their internal HX-3 via MIDI?

Sorry, I just find it hard to believe that no one is doing this and or not going to give some advice on the matter.

I just want to be able to go Slow-Stop-Fast somehow using my cc controls on the Nord C1.

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks,

Nordym
Balou
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Re: Leslie Speed control slow-stop-fast of internal Leslie

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Hi Nordym,

so actually it seems no one is using it. I use the B4D controller, which is controlling HX3 via MIDI. But the settings are fixed by Native Instruments, so i propose to check out the B4II MIDI behaviour and overtake it to your Nord keyboard.

Best regards

Balou
wdeffner
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Re: Leslie Speed control slow-stop-fast of internal Leslie

Beitrag von wdeffner »

Hi Nordym,

How successfull have you been in using HX3 with your Nord C1? it would be nice if you could make your CC-configuration availalble.

Wolfgang
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Re: Leslie Speed control slow-stop-fast of internal Leslie

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Hi
The using of the leslie switch Slow - Fast is in HX 3 implemented to the button
SLOW - FAST. The function STOP on other side is implemented to the button
RUN - STOP.
That means that SLOW - FAST is only possible when the Button RUN is switched to ON = RUN.
If the button RUN is turned OFF no function of the switch FAST - SLOW will happen.

On hardware side to realize the function SLOW - STOP - FAST it is needed to use
a two way switch with position MIDDLE
To realize the function RUN - STOP one contact half of double switch must be must be connected in each
of positions SLOW and FAST but not connected in middle position.
The other half of this switch is only connected in position FAST and open in position SLOW.

To realize this with CC controls You must use the relevant CC Control for the button RUN-STOP to realize
the function STOP.
But I don´t know if there is such CC control implemented for function STOP
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Re: Leslie Speed control slow-stop-fast of internal Leslie

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The RUN - STOP BUTTON has an OWN CC Controller separate from Fast Slow
The CC VAlues SLOW= 0 .... STOP = 64 .... FAST = 127 does not run !!!
The separate CC Controller STOP is implemented ( see listing )
Gast
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Re: Leslie Speed control slow-stop-fast of internal Leslie

Beitrag von Gast »

Thanks HappyFreddy for responding to my query.

It looks as though I need a two CC solution to do this. First I change the first CC from run to stop to STOP the rotor.

But to go to slow or fast, I need to change first CC from Stop to RUN, then the second CC for Slow/Fast will be in effect.

This will probably not really work for performing, but I guess it is a work around for now.

Sound right?

Nordym
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Re: Leslie Speed control slow-stop-fast of internal Leslie

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Yep, the Nord. It uses a 0-64-127 encoding for slow-stop-fast which HX3 does not understand. For now, we are updating our Drawbar Controller to Nord C2 specs. I think a fixed Nord MIDI CC set for HX3 would be possible in the next weeks.

Anyway, do you guys know what the Nord sends (resp. expects) along with vibrato knob and percussion changes? Nord documentation is somewhat sparse on that. CC numbers are given, but values are missing. What value for V1 to C3? What value for percussion tabs etc? Inverted or not?
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